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No, but if he drops a Radius attack, it fills the radius. Without Controlled Effect, it attacks everyone in the Radius. If the center of the radius is in touch range, it is going to hit the attacker. So, he will attack himself if he uses his Touch-range Radius attack. If it is just a Touch-range attack, there's no problem. It's when you tack on Radius that you have to worry.

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Marco Subias <arkhamalum@gmail.com> wrote:

Paul, do you demand that a PC who can shoot flames from his hands (Attacks plus Burns) has to buy Immunity [flames]? This seems a bit too rules-lawerly to me. And I could easily see a Pyrokinetic who can create flames with his mind or ignite objects but who could still be burned by fire. In the latter case, would I have to buy Harm, and Immunity [flames] with and If/Then (only his own flames if they happen to shoot out their body's immediate vicinity)? Again, too picky for my tastes.    

Hotjets

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Paul Stefko <ham2anv@gmail.com> wrote:

Also, I hope he's immune to fire, because he's just dropped a huge bomb right on his own head. The game doesn't assume automatic immunity to one's own powers, as far as I can tell. Controlled Effect would help here. 

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Paul Stefko <ham2anv@gmail.com> wrote:

Yeah, it lacks any Duration extra, so it is one shot per activation. 

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Shane Ivey <shane.ivey@gmail.com> wrote:

<<And once he activates it, it just keeps on doing 4 Shock and 4 Killing to every hit location of everything nearby?>>

Wouldn't he need to declare and activate it each round? 

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Wade Lahoda <wade.lahoda@gmail.com> wrote:

I figure I'd do a separate thread, since this is potentially less interesting to the group than the quartet of toddlers with Tier 4 powers. ;) I'm gonna need some help for some of the power mechanics for some more mundane stuff too...

First up - damage auras/offensive armor. In this case it is flames. We're not necessarily looking for a radius effect here (though the player wants to be able to flare it to do damage in a radius, but that's probably just), but instead more of a "If you touch/attack me, you automatically get hurt".  Here's my first attempt

Wreathed in Fire (6)

  Attacks Extras and Flaws: Touch Only -2, Engulf +2, Penetration +1, Radius +2

4 Hard dice: 48 Points

Because he didn't take it with full power only or the like, I imagine that means he can dial in the Radius if he wants? Like have it be 1 yard radius one round, and then spend an action to make it go out to the full radius another? And once he activates it, it just keeps on doing 4 Shock and 4 Killing to every hit location of everything nearby?  I didn't give it Burn, because I figure once you leave the area of affect it probably doesn't keep hurting you - let's be honest, fire this intense (we're looking at slagging steel plate type heat) is going to rapidly burn off anything likely to keep burning for any length of time, and it isn't like it coats you in napalm.

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<<And once he activates it, it just keeps on doing 4 Shock and 4 Killing to every hit location of everything nearby?>>

Wouldn't he need to declare and activate it each round? 

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Wade Lahoda <wade.lahoda@gmail.com> wrote:

I figure I'd do a separate thread, since this is potentially less interesting to the group than the quartet of toddlers with Tier 4 powers. ;) I'm gonna need some help for some of the power mechanics for some more mundane stuff too...

First up - damage auras/offensive armor. In this case it is flames. We're not necessarily looking for a radius effect here (though the player wants to be able to flare it to do damage in a radius, but that's probably just), but instead more of a "If you touch/attack me, you automatically get hurt".  Here's my first attempt

Wreathed in Fire (6)

  Attacks Extras and Flaws: Touch Only -2, Engulf +2, Penetration +1, Radius +2

4 Hard dice: 48 Points

Because he didn't take it with full power only or the like, I imagine that means he can dial in the Radius if he wants? Like have it be 1 yard radius one round, and then spend an action to make it go out to the full radius another? And once he activates it, it just keeps on doing 4 Shock and 4 Killing to every hit location of everything nearby?  I didn't give it Burn, because I figure once you leave the area of affect it probably doesn't keep hurting you - let's be honest, fire this intense (we're looking at slagging steel plate type heat) is going to rapidly burn off anything likely to keep burning for any length of time, and it isn't like it coats you in napalm.

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Paul, do you demand that a PC who can shoot flames from his hands (Attacks plus Burns) has to buy Immunity [flames]? This seems a bit too rules-lawerly to me. And I could easily see a Pyrokinetic who can create flames with his mind or ignite objects but who could still be burned by fire. In the latter case, would I have to buy Harm, and Immunity [flames] with and If/Then (only his own flames if they happen to shoot out their body's immediate vicinity)? Again, too picky for my tastes.    

Hotjets

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Paul Stefko <ham2anv@gmail.com> wrote:

Also, I hope he's immune to fire, because he's just dropped a huge bomb right on his own head. The game doesn't assume automatic immunity to one's own powers, as far as I can tell. Controlled Effect would help here. 

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Paul Stefko <ham2anv@gmail.com> wrote:

Yeah, it lacks any Duration extra, so it is one shot per activation. 

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Shane Ivey <shane.ivey@gmail.com> wrote:

<<And once he activates it, it just keeps on doing 4 Shock and 4 Killing to every hit location of everything nearby?>>

Wouldn't he need to declare and activate it each round? 

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Wade Lahoda <wade.lahoda@gmail.com> wrote:

I figure I'd do a separate thread, since this is potentially less interesting to the group than the quartet of toddlers with Tier 4 powers. ;) I'm gonna need some help for some of the power mechanics for some more mundane stuff too...

First up - damage auras/offensive armor. In this case it is flames. We're not necessarily looking for a radius effect here (though the player wants to be able to flare it to do damage in a radius, but that's probably just), but instead more of a "If you touch/attack me, you automatically get hurt".  Here's my first attempt

Wreathed in Fire (6)

  Attacks Extras and Flaws: Touch Only -2, Engulf +2, Penetration +1, Radius +2

4 Hard dice: 48 Points

Because he didn't take it with full power only or the like, I imagine that means he can dial in the Radius if he wants? Like have it be 1 yard radius one round, and then spend an action to make it go out to the full radius another? And once he activates it, it just keeps on doing 4 Shock and 4 Killing to every hit location of everything nearby?  I didn't give it Burn, because I figure once you leave the area of affect it probably doesn't keep hurting you - let's be honest, fire this intense (we're looking at slagging steel plate type heat) is going to rapidly burn off anything likely to keep burning for any length of time, and it isn't like it coats you in napalm.

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Also, I hope he's immune to fire, because he's just dropped a huge bomb right on his own head. The game doesn't assume automatic immunity to one's own powers, as far as I can tell. Controlled Effect would help here. 

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Paul Stefko <ham2anv@gmail.com> wrote:

Yeah, it lacks any Duration extra, so it is one shot per activation. 

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Shane Ivey <shane.ivey@gmail.com> wrote:

<<And once he activates it, it just keeps on doing 4 Shock and 4 Killing to every hit location of everything nearby?>>

Wouldn't he need to declare and activate it each round? 

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Wade Lahoda <wade.lahoda@gmail.com> wrote:

I figure I'd do a separate thread, since this is potentially less interesting to the group than the quartet of toddlers with Tier 4 powers. ;) I'm gonna need some help for some of the power mechanics for some more mundane stuff too...

First up - damage auras/offensive armor. In this case it is flames. We're not necessarily looking for a radius effect here (though the player wants to be able to flare it to do damage in a radius, but that's probably just), but instead more of a "If you touch/attack me, you automatically get hurt".  Here's my first attempt

Wreathed in Fire (6)

  Attacks Extras and Flaws: Touch Only -2, Engulf +2, Penetration +1, Radius +2

4 Hard dice: 48 Points

Because he didn't take it with full power only or the like, I imagine that means he can dial in the Radius if he wants? Like have it be 1 yard radius one round, and then spend an action to make it go out to the full radius another? And once he activates it, it just keeps on doing 4 Shock and 4 Killing to every hit location of everything nearby?  I didn't give it Burn, because I figure once you leave the area of affect it probably doesn't keep hurting you - let's be honest, fire this intense (we're looking at slagging steel plate type heat) is going to rapidly burn off anything likely to keep burning for any length of time, and it isn't like it coats you in napalm.

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Yeah, it lacks any Duration extra, so it is one shot per activation. 

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Shane Ivey <shane.ivey@gmail.com> wrote:

<<And once he activates it, it just keeps on doing 4 Shock and 4 Killing to every hit location of everything nearby?>>

Wouldn't he need to declare and activate it each round? 

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Wade Lahoda <wade.lahoda@gmail.com> wrote:

I figure I'd do a separate thread, since this is potentially less interesting to the group than the quartet of toddlers with Tier 4 powers. ;) I'm gonna need some help for some of the power mechanics for some more mundane stuff too...

First up - damage auras/offensive armor. In this case it is flames. We're not necessarily looking for a radius effect here (though the player wants to be able to flare it to do damage in a radius, but that's probably just), but instead more of a "If you touch/attack me, you automatically get hurt".  Here's my first attempt

Wreathed in Fire (6)

  Attacks Extras and Flaws: Touch Only -2, Engulf +2, Penetration +1, Radius +2

4 Hard dice: 48 Points

Because he didn't take it with full power only or the like, I imagine that means he can dial in the Radius if he wants? Like have it be 1 yard radius one round, and then spend an action to make it go out to the full radius another? And once he activates it, it just keeps on doing 4 Shock and 4 Killing to every hit location of everything nearby?  I didn't give it Burn, because I figure once you leave the area of affect it probably doesn't keep hurting you - let's be honest, fire this intense (we're looking at slagging steel plate type heat) is going to rapidly burn off anything likely to keep burning for any length of time, and it isn't like it coats you in napalm.

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<<And once he activates it, it just keeps on doing 4 Shock and 4 Killing to every hit location of everything nearby?>>

Wouldn't he need to declare and activate it each round? 

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Wade Lahoda <wade.lahoda@gmail.com> wrote:

I figure I'd do a separate thread, since this is potentially less interesting to the group than the quartet of toddlers with Tier 4 powers. ;) I'm gonna need some help for some of the power mechanics for some more mundane stuff too...

First up - damage auras/offensive armor. In this case it is flames. We're not necessarily looking for a radius effect here (though the player wants to be able to flare it to do damage in a radius, but that's probably just), but instead more of a "If you touch/attack me, you automatically get hurt".  Here's my first attempt

Wreathed in Fire (6)

  Attacks Extras and Flaws: Touch Only -2, Engulf +2, Penetration +1, Radius +2

4 Hard dice: 48 Points

Because he didn't take it with full power only or the like, I imagine that means he can dial in the Radius if he wants? Like have it be 1 yard radius one round, and then spend an action to make it go out to the full radius another? And once he activates it, it just keeps on doing 4 Shock and 4 Killing to every hit location of everything nearby?  I didn't give it Burn, because I figure once you leave the area of affect it probably doesn't keep hurting you - let's be honest, fire this intense (we're looking at slagging steel plate type heat) is going to rapidly burn off anything likely to keep burning for any length of time, and it isn't like it coats you in napalm.

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I figure I'd do a separate thread, since this is potentially less interesting to the group than the quartet of toddlers with Tier 4 powers. ;) I'm gonna need some help for some of the power mechanics for some more mundane stuff too...

First up - damage auras/offensive armor. In this case it is flames. We're not necessarily looking for a radius effect here (though the player wants to be able to flare it to do damage in a radius, but that's probably just), but instead more of a "If you touch/attack me, you automatically get hurt".  Here's my first attempt

Wreathed in Fire (6)

  Attacks Extras and Flaws: Touch Only -2, Engulf +2, Penetration +1, Radius +2

4 Hard dice: 48 Points

Because he didn't take it with full power only or the like, I imagine that means he can dial in the Radius if he wants? Like have it be 1 yard radius one round, and then spend an action to make it go out to the full radius another? And once he activates it, it just keeps on doing 4 Shock and 4 Killing to every hit location of everything nearby?  I didn't give it Burn, because I figure once you leave the area of affect it probably doesn't keep hurting you - let's be honest, fire this intense (we're looking at slagging steel plate type heat) is going to rapidly burn off anything likely to keep burning for any length of time, and it isn't like it coats you in napalm.

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One could have the power of MINE - an object that they desire is in their hand.

Also - apparently very young children do not understand that things (people / objects) exist outside of their vision... nothing good comes of this idea - ignore

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Darryl Green <priority7@gmail.com> wrote:

I like the other suggestions, but I wanna make some anyway.

For the 2-year-old, intangibility or teleportation might also be appropriate for the desire to explore absolutely everything.

For the 4-year-old, you have a character that was the baby, but then had it ripped away from him twice. HyperCharm/HyperCommand for a sort of "look at me!" approach.

For the 5-year-old, I know you said she was sensible, but how many girls that age don't want to be a princess? A combination of emotional control that can only be used on men (Prince Charmings) and the ability to make everything around her prettier and more cartoon-like and you have an annoying power-set that gets even worse as she gets older. The ability to control animals, Snow White style, can be added for taste.

On Friday, May 31, 2013 6:07:49 AM UTC-5, Wade wrote:

So, I just started running Progenitor...  Every early days of the contagion, the PCs are a group of protesters who catch the super from Johnson at a speech they're protesting. One of the player characters ends up being a mind controller, and has a baby-sitting gig - where she inadvertantly uses her powers to keep the four little brats calm.

Of course, I roll it out, and she infects all four of them with the super.

Any suggestions on powers for a bunch of Tier 4 toddlers?  We've got a baby girl, a two year old boy (which is a terror for trying to climb stuff and get into things, etc), a four year old boy, and a more sensible five year old girl. I suspect if they don't *kill* her inadvertently, between the four of them they'll also probably pretty quickly infect their mom, a young woman whose husband is an Army Lieutenant currently overseas.

I suspect having a whole family with four tier 4 kids and a tier 5 mom will have a pretty big impact on things early on...but I need powers for the kids. ;)

(I'm thinking, for the mom, who has been portrayed as very harried and desperate for relief from the stresses of looking after four young children by herself, I'll give her some kind of self-duplicating power, possibly with a "Power of No" style power where if she shouts NO loudly enough she can stop, well, anything, if she's got the points for it)

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